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LEGO NXT Mindstorm Frustrations

Posted by: Scott on: October 5, 2011

My two robotics classes have been working on an obstacle course.  I made it challenging, but it seems to be too challenging – not because the kids aren’t trying but because the robots do something a little different every time.  I’m confused.  I called LEGO Education support and they told me the motors are accurate to one degree per rotation.

I’m seeing errors much more than ten times that number.  I can’t seem to find a way to solve the problem.  We are using yellow RESET block, light green MOVE blocks, and orange rotational WAIT blocks.  We have a spot carefully marked on the floor for the start and way points.  Starting at the same spot may have the robot as much as an inch off within about 10 rotations.  The total motor error should be about 0.17 inches.  I can’t determine if it’s a problem in NXT-G or the motors.

I’ve searched the NXT books, blogs, web sites, and books, and I can’t find any references to the inaccuracy issues.  Has anyone else seen these problems?  How do I fix this?

4 Responses to "LEGO NXT Mindstorm Frustrations"

Is it possible to use a switch of some sort to close each rotation, thus using an external calibration check against the (what I assume is a) built-in rotation sensor? I don’t know how programmable the NXT system is, but if it can be programmed to re-calibrate the motor rotation every time it has a switch-closed condition that might help.

They have a counter reset that we use, but you can’t do any kind of software or hardware calibration. At least none that I’ve been able to discover.

I used the LEGO NXT Mindstorms with a group of middle schoolers. We found that the amount of battery life remaining had a strong effect on how well/consistently the motors performed. We had to keep the batteries fresh in order to ensure consistency in output.

Kate,
My experience with the batteries has been decent. We try to charge them each day, but I’ve seen many of them go almost a week between charges. I should add here that I’m using the rechargeable packs that come with the education kits. If you are using alkaline AA’s, you are probably having a different experience. If you are running the motors, they don’t last real long. The rechargeable packs have a failure rate that I find unacceptable. Two out of thirteen died just after the first year, when they were out of warranty. I have enough kits across two classes that we just pull the batteries each class and the next class uses them. I like the rechargeable packs, but I would replace the dead ones with NiMH AA’s. For the price of one LEGO rechargeable pack ($50), I could buy a charger and a pile of NiMH AA’s.

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Hi, I'm Scott. I teach in a charter school in the city of Philadelphia. I started this blog to help me keep track of the things I want to do in my classroom and it kind of got away from me. I still use most of the lessons and activities you see here, so I know they work. Feel free to email me with questions, I'm happy to help.

It's 2011/2012 which means my courses are different once again. When I first started, I taught two courses, Physics and Conceptual Physics (which is physics-lite). Year 6 at this school has seen a maturing of our science program, we are offering many more science electives. There is no more Conceptual Physics (oh yeah!!). I've got two sections of Physics, one of Calculus, and this year two sections of my STEM elective - now called Robotics & Engineering.

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